My nonresident employee says a treaty exempts some wages and wants to give us Form 8233. How should we think about that file?
We are a small foreign-owned LLC and one new U.S.-based hire says she is a nonresident alien and may be treaty-exempt on part of her compensation. She mentioned Form 8233, which I had never dealt with before. I want to take the request seriously, but I also do not want the company to rely on treaty language that is not actually supported by the facts.
What should the employer be checking here before accepting the form into payroll? I am looking for a practical employer-side view of what makes a Form 8233 file coherent instead of just signed.
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