Payroll asked for a W-8BEN for treaty-exempt wages, but I thought personal services should use Form 8233. Which one is right?
I do not want to send the wrong document just because the payroll team is using a generic template. My understanding is that treaty claims on personal services compensation are usually handled with Form 8233, while W-8BEN is more for non-compensation income. But because both forms are about foreign status and treaty claims, I can see how people mix them up.
Before I answer payroll, I want to know whether that distinction is real enough to push back on. If wages for dependent or independent personal services belong on Form 8233, I would rather get the file right now than let the wrong withholding document shape the whole year-end reporting story.
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